Comments on: Thinking like God http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html "What you think about, you bring about." Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:02:28 +1200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Alan Howard http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html/comment-page-1#comment-1199 Alan Howard Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:39:00 +0000 http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html#comment-1199 Yes, definitely. There is Truth in this universe, but that Truth will differ according to the individual's perception of it.<br/><br/>I've written stuff on it <a HREF="http://spirit-blog.blogspot.com/2005/09/perception-of-spiritual-reality.html" REL="nofollow">here</a>, <a HREF="http://spirit-blog.blogspot.com/2005/11/alternate-realities.html" REL="nofollow">here </a>and <a HREF="http://spirit-blog.blogspot.com/2006/03/alternate-realities.html" REL="nofollow">here</a>. Yes, definitely. There is Truth in this universe, but that Truth will differ according to the individual’s perception of it.

I’ve written stuff on it here, here and here.

]]> By: Greg Long http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html/comment-page-1#comment-1198 Greg Long Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:46:00 +0000 http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html#comment-1198 So I gather that we agree that Truth exists independently of us but the impact of that truth depends upon our subjective awareness and acceptance to make it "true for me". So I gather that we agree that Truth exists independently of us but the impact of that truth depends upon our subjective awareness and acceptance to make it “true for me”.

]]> By: Alan Howard http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html/comment-page-1#comment-1197 Alan Howard Sat, 24 Jun 2006 23:44:00 +0000 http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html#comment-1197 Sure Greg, I know exactly what you are saying. But the truth of you typing the note is true for you. The POSSIBILITY exists that someone else typed it for you, while you dictated to them.<br/><br/>The truth is yours. It's true that I'm READING your comment, but the truth of you typing it or someone else doing it, is still subjective.<br/><br/>Yes, I'm being silly, but while you can go on for ages about truth, so can I about that truth being valid only for you. That's the point I'm trying to make. Sure Greg, I know exactly what you are saying. But the truth of you typing the note is true for you. The POSSIBILITY exists that someone else typed it for you, while you dictated to them.

The truth is yours. It’s true that I’m READING your comment, but the truth of you typing it or someone else doing it, is still subjective.

Yes, I’m being silly, but while you can go on for ages about truth, so can I about that truth being valid only for you. That’s the point I’m trying to make.

]]> By: Greg Long http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html/comment-page-1#comment-1196 Greg Long Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:42:00 +0000 http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html#comment-1196 It is true that I am typing this note. It is true whether or not you believe it, others believe it or whether it is verifiable by science.<br/><br/>Some things are simply true.<br/><br/>Truth exists with or without us. It is true that I am typing this note. It is true whether or not you believe it, others believe it or whether it is verifiable by science.

Some things are simply true.

Truth exists with or without us.

]]> By: Alan Howard http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html/comment-page-1#comment-1195 Alan Howard Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:42:00 +0000 http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html#comment-1195 but truth in relation to God has to be subjective, because there's no scientific evidence (yet) that proves the validity of God's existence. Therefore, the only way it can be an inalienable truth is in the mind of the believer of that truth.<br/><br/>It was once considered true by the Catholic Church, for example, that the universe revolved around the earth. The beliefs of the church didn't make their truth an inalienable truth. It was true as far as the individual - or the group - believed it to be true.<br/><br/>You know I believe in a God, Greg, so I'm not disputing its existence. All I'm doing is saying that what's true for us isn't true for others, and there can never be a definitive truth that overrides everything - except in the case of belief.<br/><br/>What we believe is what is true for us. And that's all it's ever going to be.<br/><br/>We all say the sky is blue. That could be considered as true. And yet truth is still subjective to the individual. People will see different shades of blue, according to the makeup of their eyes. And colourblind people won't even know what blue is! In their existence, blue doesn't exist except as a shade of grey.<br/><br/>What is truth is what is accepted as truth by those that believe it's true.<br/><br/>I can't see it any other way. but truth in relation to God has to be subjective, because there’s no scientific evidence (yet) that proves the validity of God’s existence. Therefore, the only way it can be an inalienable truth is in the mind of the believer of that truth.

It was once considered true by the Catholic Church, for example, that the universe revolved around the earth. The beliefs of the church didn’t make their truth an inalienable truth. It was true as far as the individual – or the group – believed it to be true.

You know I believe in a God, Greg, so I’m not disputing its existence. All I’m doing is saying that what’s true for us isn’t true for others, and there can never be a definitive truth that overrides everything – except in the case of belief.

What we believe is what is true for us. And that’s all it’s ever going to be.

We all say the sky is blue. That could be considered as true. And yet truth is still subjective to the individual. People will see different shades of blue, according to the makeup of their eyes. And colourblind people won’t even know what blue is! In their existence, blue doesn’t exist except as a shade of grey.

What is truth is what is accepted as truth by those that believe it’s true.

I can’t see it any other way.

]]> By: Greg Long http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html/comment-page-1#comment-1194 Greg Long Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:21:00 +0000 http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html#comment-1194 If "truth" is subjective it is nothing but a conceit of fashion, and as 'fashion' dispensible and so in turn a contradiction.<br/><br/>If you are caught in the web of relativity and proclaim the "sixth sense" but ignore the source of all senses you run a Matrix philosophy which cannot stand close scrutiny.<br/><br/>Our choice of beliefs is subjective.<br/><br/>Truth is not.<br/><br/>You retain the right to remain in a closed dark windowless room and your subjective 'truth' may be that there is no light. That subjective 'truth' bears no resemblance to actual truth, no matter how sincere your belief. If “truth” is subjective it is nothing but a conceit of fashion, and as ‘fashion’ dispensible and so in turn a contradiction.

If you are caught in the web of relativity and proclaim the “sixth sense” but ignore the source of all senses you run a Matrix philosophy which cannot stand close scrutiny.

Our choice of beliefs is subjective.

Truth is not.

You retain the right to remain in a closed dark windowless room and your subjective ‘truth’ may be that there is no light. That subjective ‘truth’ bears no resemblance to actual truth, no matter how sincere your belief.

]]> By: Alan Howard http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html/comment-page-1#comment-1193 Alan Howard Thu, 22 Jun 2006 19:27:00 +0000 http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html#comment-1193 The truths that lie in our beliefs are subjective. There is more <b>evidence </b>of gravity than there is of God, and yet billions of people believe in the truth of God. God is true for you, and yet not true for others. Gravity is true for everyone. It's the individual's belief in God, what they consider true or not, which is subjective. The truths that lie in our beliefs are subjective. There is more evidence of gravity than there is of God, and yet billions of people believe in the truth of God. God is true for you, and yet not true for others. Gravity is true for everyone. It’s the individual’s belief in God, what they consider true or not, which is subjective.

]]> By: Greg Long http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html/comment-page-1#comment-1192 Greg Long Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:01:00 +0000 http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html#comment-1192 You believe in the existence of earth's gravity.<br/><br/>I do not.<br/><br/>I walk off the top of a high building.<br/><br/>No, Alan, truth is not subjective. You believe in the existence of earth’s gravity.

I do not.

I walk off the top of a high building.

No, Alan, truth is not subjective.

]]> By: Alan Howard http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html/comment-page-1#comment-1191 Alan Howard Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:45:00 +0000 http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html#comment-1191 Thanks Greg. 'True'? Truth is only subjective, according to the individual. I believe it's your truth, and I respect that. It's not everyone's truth though, and I'm sure you respect that too. :-) Thanks Greg. ‘True’? Truth is only subjective, according to the individual. I believe it’s your truth, and I respect that. It’s not everyone’s truth though, and I’m sure you respect that too. :-)

]]> By: Greg Long http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html/comment-page-1#comment-1190 Greg Long Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:23:00 +0000 http://www.alanzeyes.com/2006/06/thinking-like-god.html#comment-1190 "Thinking like God helps you think without boundaries."<br/><br/>In essence that answers your questions. God is without boundaries; sufficient unto Himself-He lacks nothing and cannot of nature be negative.<br/><br/>If you, in human terms ofcourse, want to think like God then you need go no further than follow Jesus Christ, the God-Man.<br/><br/>No need for complexity. Just follow those teachings.<br/><br/>BTW- Although God is spirit (and as such neither male or female we are aware that God made us in His image so God incorporates both the male and female). The Hebrews used the word "Elohiym" which incorporates the plural and the singular, male & female. It is not a perfact term but the best we have). <br/>BTW2- God is He. He tells us so through His books- The Holy Bible. Political correctness is fashionable conceit and Mother Earth concepts a reversion to paganism.<br/><br/>I thought you would like an orthodox view in your pages. Not only orthodox but true “Thinking like God helps you think without boundaries.”

In essence that answers your questions. God is without boundaries; sufficient unto Himself-He lacks nothing and cannot of nature be negative.

If you, in human terms ofcourse, want to think like God then you need go no further than follow Jesus Christ, the God-Man.

No need for complexity. Just follow those teachings.

BTW- Although God is spirit (and as such neither male or female we are aware that God made us in His image so God incorporates both the male and female). The Hebrews used the word “Elohiym” which incorporates the plural and the singular, male & female. It is not a perfact term but the best we have).
BTW2- God is He. He tells us so through His books- The Holy Bible. Political correctness is fashionable conceit and Mother Earth concepts a reversion to paganism.

I thought you would like an orthodox view in your pages. Not only orthodox but true

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